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EP 47: The Power of the List and Why 40 - 40 - 20 Wins

May 05, 20263 min read

Why a Small List Beats a Big One (Every Time)

The Truth About Most Lists

Alright, let’s get real for a second. I know it sounds appealing to drop a few bucks on Fiverr and get “the perfect” list of buyers who’ll just throw money at you. But, honestly? That’s garbage. Those lists usually aren’t worth the paper (or pixels) they’re printed on. The trick isn’t having a huge pile of names, it’s having the right people on your list.

Rethinking the Classic “40-40-20 Rule”

You’ve probably heard the saying: 40% of your results come from the list, 40% from the offer, 20% from your copy. But if you ask me these days, your list is everything, maybe even more than 40%. If you’re selling to the wrong crowd, it doesn’t matter what you say or offer, it just won’t land.

Quality Over Quantity (Seriously)

People get obsessed with big numbers, but here’s what actually moves the needle: being unbelievably clear on who your perfect customer is. Think specifics, what industry are they in, how many employees, what kind of business do they run, heck, even what kind of car do they drive? When you really know your people, everything you do just clicks better.

And hey, don’t just focus on who to add, get clear on who needs to stay off your list, too. Less is more if you want to avoid wasting time and money.

Do the Boring Stuff (It Works)

Too many people think Google or Facebook will magically find ideal customers for them. Nope. Sometimes finding the right folks means doing the grunt work, digging through records, or actually getting out in your community. It’s not flashy, but it beats burning cash and getting zero results.

Go Deep, Not Wide

Here’s what most people don’t get: Depth beats breadth. I’d take 200 super-engaged, hungry buyers over a list of 20,000 random names any day. The more you know about your audience, their habits, their quirks, the easier it is to make offers that hit home and create long-term, profitable relationships.

Keep Showing Up

Don’t think you can just email once and call it a day. You’ve got to keep showing up for your list, share good stuff, be honest, get on video, whatever it takes. It’s about building “know, like, and trust” over time. When you’re authentic and consistent, people actually pay attention.

Trust and Being Real Matter Most

People want real. Especially in smaller markets, you’ve got to be YOU, on camera, on calls, and, when possible, in person. Forget hiding behind stock photos or a logo, just show up and build trust. That’s where the wins come from.

Systematize the Follow-Through

First sale? Comes from being relevant. Second? Trust. Third and beyond? That’s all about the systems, so have a process, automate smartly, and always follow up.

Start Small, Go Deep, Win Big

It doesn’t matter if you’re a solopreneur hustling at your kitchen table or running a big team, the list is where it all starts. Small, targeted, and genuinely engaged will always beat spraying and praying all over the place.

Ready to Build a List That Actually Works?

Drop a comment below and tell me who YOUR perfect customer is (get as specific as you can!). Or, if you want to take action today, hit me up directly and let’s chat about how to curate a killer list for your business.

Don’t wait on that giant list, go deeper with a smaller one, and watch what happens.

Listen in to the full episode here and make sure to check out my other blogs for more insights

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